http://www.winextra.com/tech/software/windows-7-rc-beta-a-sneaky-way-to-sell-win7-ultimate/ Satisfying Your Inner Nerd Tue, 22 May 2012 04:45:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 http://www.winextra.com/tech/software/windows-7-rc-beta-a-sneaky-way-to-sell-win7-ultimate/comment-page-1/#comment-450 Pierre Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:27:40 +0000 http://www.winextra.com/index.php/2009/08/17/windows-7-rc-beta-a-sneaky-way-to-sell-win7-ultimate/#comment-450 From personal experience, the W7 migration wizard is perfectly adequate for a reinstall scenario – for MS software at least. For 3rd-party software, some settings will not be migrated properly. The list of supported applications is limited and almost impossible to find. The *real* underhanded maneuvre, however, is the decision by MS not to provide an e-mail client nor a newsreader. This only leaves a choice of "Windows Live Essentials", which is mainly a POS (migrated mail rules work only once in a while, and the inability to empty all "junk mail" folders or all "deleted items" with a single click is a definite PITA) in its present state, or 3rd-party software, including MS Outlook – which costs a bundle, but does import the mails and rules properly. From personal experience, the W7 migration wizard is perfectly adequate for a reinstall scenario – for MS software at least. For 3rd-party software, some settings will not be migrated properly. The list of supported applications is limited and almost impossible to find. The *real* underhanded maneuvre, however, is the decision by MS not to provide an e-mail client nor a newsreader. This only leaves a choice of “Windows Live Essentials”, which is mainly a POS (migrated mail rules work only once in a while, and the inability to empty all “junk mail” folders or all “deleted items” with a single click is a definite PITA) in its present state, or 3rd-party software, including MS Outlook – which costs a bundle, but does import the mails and rules properly.

]]> http://www.winextra.com/tech/software/windows-7-rc-beta-a-sneaky-way-to-sell-win7-ultimate/comment-page-1/#comment-3984 Pierre Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:27:00 +0000 http://www.winextra.com/index.php/2009/08/17/windows-7-rc-beta-a-sneaky-way-to-sell-win7-ultimate/#comment-3984 From personal experience, the W7 migration wizard is perfectly adequate for a reinstall scenario – for MS software at least. For 3rd-party software, some settings will not be migrated properly. The list of supported applications is limited and almost impossible to find. The *real* underhanded maneuvre, however, is the decision by MS not to provide an e-mail client nor a newsreader. This only leaves a choice of "Windows Live Essentials", which is mainly a POS (migrated mail rules work only once in a while, and the inability to empty all "junk mail" folders or all "deleted items" with a single click is a definite PITA) in its present state, or 3rd-party software, including MS Outlook – which costs a bundle, but does import the mails and rules properly. From personal experience, the W7 migration wizard is perfectly adequate for a reinstall scenario – for MS software at least. For 3rd-party software, some settings will not be migrated properly. The list of supported applications is limited and almost impossible to find. The *real* underhanded maneuvre, however, is the decision by MS not to provide an e-mail client nor a newsreader. This only leaves a choice of “Windows Live Essentials”, which is mainly a POS (migrated mail rules work only once in a while, and the inability to empty all “junk mail” folders or all “deleted items” with a single click is a definite PITA) in its present state, or 3rd-party software, including MS Outlook – which costs a bundle, but does import the mails and rules properly.

]]> http://www.winextra.com/tech/software/windows-7-rc-beta-a-sneaky-way-to-sell-win7-ultimate/comment-page-1/#comment-447 Steven Hodson Tue, 18 Aug 2009 01:19:53 +0000 http://www.winextra.com/index.php/2009/08/17/windows-7-rc-beta-a-sneaky-way-to-sell-win7-ultimate/#comment-447 Oh I have played with enough versions of Windows and put together enough machines over the years to know that a full clean install is the best. XP as good as it was meant having to do either a reinstall from image or fresh every year almost. I just think that not providing a clean downgrade - so to speak - is underhanded. Oh I have played with enough versions of Windows and put together enough machines over the years to know that a full clean install is the best. XP as good as it was meant having to do either a reinstall from image or fresh every year almost. I just think that not providing a clean downgrade – so to speak – is underhanded.

]]> http://www.winextra.com/tech/software/windows-7-rc-beta-a-sneaky-way-to-sell-win7-ultimate/comment-page-1/#comment-3983 Steven Hodson Tue, 18 Aug 2009 01:19:00 +0000 http://www.winextra.com/index.php/2009/08/17/windows-7-rc-beta-a-sneaky-way-to-sell-win7-ultimate/#comment-3983 Oh I have played with enough versions of Windows and put together enough machines over the years to know that a full clean install is the best. XP as good as it was meant having to do either a reinstall from image or fresh every year almost. I just think that not providing a clean downgrade - so to speak - is underhanded. Oh I have played with enough versions of Windows and put together enough machines over the years to know that a full clean install is the best. XP as good as it was meant having to do either a reinstall from image or fresh every year almost. I just think that not providing a clean downgrade – so to speak – is underhanded.

]]> http://www.winextra.com/tech/software/windows-7-rc-beta-a-sneaky-way-to-sell-win7-ultimate/comment-page-1/#comment-446 Keith (a.k.a. Tsudo) Tue, 18 Aug 2009 01:07:08 +0000 http://www.winextra.com/index.php/2009/08/17/windows-7-rc-beta-a-sneaky-way-to-sell-win7-ultimate/#comment-446 I agree that this is pretty shady but not entirely unexpected from MS. However, any Microsoft professional will tell you that upgrading is never a good idea. Always wipe and load from scratch if at all possible. I agree that this is pretty shady but not entirely unexpected from MS. However, any Microsoft professional will tell you that upgrading is never a good idea. Always wipe and load from scratch if at all possible.

]]> http://www.winextra.com/tech/software/windows-7-rc-beta-a-sneaky-way-to-sell-win7-ultimate/comment-page-1/#comment-3982 Keith (a.k.a. Tsudo) Tue, 18 Aug 2009 01:07:00 +0000 http://www.winextra.com/index.php/2009/08/17/windows-7-rc-beta-a-sneaky-way-to-sell-win7-ultimate/#comment-3982 I agree that this is pretty shady but not entirely unexpected from MS. However, any Microsoft professional will tell you that upgrading is never a good idea. Always wipe and load from scratch if at all possible. I agree that this is pretty shady but not entirely unexpected from MS. However, any Microsoft professional will tell you that upgrading is never a good idea. Always wipe and load from scratch if at all possible.

]]> http://www.winextra.com/tech/software/windows-7-rc-beta-a-sneaky-way-to-sell-win7-ultimate/comment-page-1/#comment-444 Steven Hodson Mon, 17 Aug 2009 23:35:43 +0000 http://www.winextra.com/index.php/2009/08/17/windows-7-rc-beta-a-sneaky-way-to-sell-win7-ultimate/#comment-444 To quote Ed Bott from his linked post <blockquote> Ah, but downgrading from Vista Ultimate to a lesser edition isn’t a supported option, and as far as I know there isn’t a hack to make this sort of in-place downgrade possible. </blockquote> that is pretty much what I have read elsewhere as well. To quote Ed Bott from his linked post
<blockquote>
Ah, but downgrading from Vista Ultimate to a lesser edition isn’t a supported option, and as far as I know there isn’t a hack to make this sort of in-place downgrade possible.
</blockquote>
that is pretty much what I have read elsewhere as well.

]]> http://www.winextra.com/tech/software/windows-7-rc-beta-a-sneaky-way-to-sell-win7-ultimate/comment-page-1/#comment-3981 Steven Hodson Mon, 17 Aug 2009 23:35:00 +0000 http://www.winextra.com/index.php/2009/08/17/windows-7-rc-beta-a-sneaky-way-to-sell-win7-ultimate/#comment-3981 To quote Ed Bott from his linked post <blockquote> Ah, but downgrading from Vista Ultimate to a lesser edition isn’t a supported option, and as far as I know there isn’t a hack to make this sort of in-place downgrade possible. </blockquote> that is pretty much what I have read elsewhere as well. To quote Ed Bott from his linked post
<blockquote>
Ah, but downgrading from Vista Ultimate to a lesser edition isn’t a supported option, and as far as I know there isn’t a hack to make this sort of in-place downgrade possible.
</blockquote>
that is pretty much what I have read elsewhere as well.

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