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    Wait. I'm writing about multi-level marketing? Weird. That must be my Tyler Durden self. My last ten posts were about:

    * website information
    * YouTube- potential money model
    * realtors and community
    * podcasting as an information channel
    * friendfeed (mostly a problem I was having)
    * pointer to a report
    * neat sales article that gave me a few ideas
    * pointer to a presentation
    * video about a book
    * a flickr project

    Wow, I seem so very interested in MLM and free stuff.

    Please don't paint with Amanda Chapel colors, Stephen. I believe that social software are tools, and that they can enable enterprise, non-profit, personal, and other forms of communication and collaboration.

    Twitter isn't the body of my work (thank the sweet little 8 3/4 pound baby Jesus).
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    Two things Chris.

    Normally I don't get to fussy about the spelling of my name but its Steven not Stephen.

    Secondly nowhere did I say anything that writing about MLM was a requirement just as the "products" of MLM are about the way that MLM is set up so please rather than assuming I mean something - which I don't - read *what* I wrote not what you think I wrote. Could I be totally off base with something that is nothing more than a written down stream of thoughts - you betcha I could be but at least be arguing the right points.
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    Sorry about that, Steven. My dad is a Stephen, so that's why I get it wrong all the time.

    I think the points in general are good. I'm just not down for being called part of the "cumbaya and kissing" crowd, when my typical conversations off-blog are with Intel, IBM, Thomson Reuters, and the like. Defensive? Maybe. But also making the point that the tools and the movement are two different things. I'm subscribed to both at different levels.

    Overall, I'm with you that the "let's all kiss and give everything away" mindset has to alter. But where/what/how? Maybe that's what you'll suss out here.
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    No problem Chris - like I said I don't usually get bothered by it but I was still working on my first pot of coffee :)

    Here's something else to consider as well. As much as the warm and fuzzy crowd of Social Media might not want the stink of MLM attached to the movement the possibility is that MLM could be looked at as very much a fore runner of Social Media. After all from their point of view they are trying to do the same thing - move people and concepts forward through a group effort but their "product" is actually goods and money rather than the "attention" and "recognition" that Social Media like to use. But in the end it really all boils down to who is making the money and how they are making it.

    Why do companies like Intel, IBM or Thomas Reuters want to understand how social media works? Because it can affect their profit margins and to think otherwise in my opinion is foolish and extremely short shighted.
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    Nice analogy Steven. I'm not sure if it quite fits, bit the point is clear ;-) I guess in any business model where the user isn't upfront told exactly about the way revenue is being generated, this scenario holds. I guess that is where the catch22 lies.
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    There's two differences here, though: 1) If the social media world is analagous to an MLM, it removes the most insidious part of the MLM, and that is the preying on the naiive by stealing their cash. 2) and more importantly, the freemium and ad supported models have been proven to work for more than just one or two folks who steal others' time and money (though I'd certainly be the first to admit that it isn't as widely applicable to all situations as so much of the Web 2.0 world would believe).
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    It's not cash that's flowing up this time...it's attention. The formula for each seems similar, though. I see so many otherwise interesting people get sucked into this black hole. Formula: your upstream personalities get you in to a new social space with a cool exclusive invite. You can't really use the tool effectively, though, without people to interact with...a downstream. You might get a few friends/co-workers to join up, but the more people you can be friends with the more interesting the space becomes. In order to get these friends you have to get people's attention. To do that you find yourself ingratiating yourself to some personality that's grown a following by being loud and connected. Glomming onto these people gets you followers, only what your followers see isn't you being yourself it's you bring someone else's groupie. Their attention flows to that loud and connected personality.

    This must be silly to read. I find it silly and I'm the one typing it. But over the past year I've seen otherwise interesting people succumb to these kind of weird popularity contests. I've been in these spaces for a year now, and I'm having a hard time believing that this was the promise of social networking. I'm hoping it'll even itself out when more mainstream folks move in, but will that even happen if this is what they see when they check it all out?
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    Jim I'm not finding it silly at all (and I'm the one reading it :) ). The Attention argument doesn't work all that well as just about everyone within the social media sphere have acknowledge that "attention" is the new commodity and commodities have at some point financial value for someone within that sphere.

    Just as in MLM the "cash" one made was their recognition value - which incidentally were showed off by the badges idea a Technorati concept of meatspace - whereas in the Social Media world that cash at the lower levels has been replaced with this illusionary concept of attention but as you rise up in the ranks that attention can then be translated into hard cash.
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    Heh...that's the endgame I didn't bother spelling out. One does not live on eyeballs alone! ;-)
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    In regards to #1 I would suggest that Social Media *could* still be preying on naivety - especially when it comes to the massive number of user generated Web 2.0 services - because the majority of people sign up for these things thinking that they are getting access to the cool stuff for free when in fact they are getting it because some-one was smart enough to figure out they could sucker in people to do all the hard work and get advertising thrown at them. In the end though, it is still the early ones who make the serious money.

    For #2 very very few have even come close to real money making success using the fermium or give-away outside of Web 2.0 Software authors have tried so many variations on this idea since before the internet even but you could probably count on two hands - maybe one even - the number of traditional companies that have made anywhere near the millions or billions of dollars that Web 2.0 and Social Media companies have made.

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