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	<title>Comments on: Is it really about the conversation?</title>
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	<description>aka Steve Hodson - a cranky old fart wandering the internet causing mayhem as he goes</description>
	<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 22:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rexblog.com: Rex Hammock&#8217;s weblog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; links for 2008-01-24</title>
		<link>http://www.winextra.com/2008/01/21/is-it-really-about-the-conversation/#comment-48740</link>
		<dc:creator>rexblog.com: Rex Hammock&#8217;s weblog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; links for 2008-01-24</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 05:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Are tags broken? &#124; WinExtra Quote - Technorati’s implementation of tags and their use as search terms is broken. My take: I haven&#8217;t considered this at all. I&#8217;ve just been lazy about adding Technorati tags to blog posts - my bad, not their&#8217;s. (tags: blogging tagging tags) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Are tags broken? | WinExtra Quote - Technorati’s implementation of tags and their use as search terms is broken. My take: I haven&#8217;t considered this at all. I&#8217;ve just been lazy about adding Technorati tags to blog posts - my bad, not their&#8217;s. (tags: blogging tagging tags) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Karoli</title>
		<link>http://www.winextra.com/2008/01/21/is-it-really-about-the-conversation/#comment-72758</link>
		<dc:creator>Karoli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 05:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#39;m just catching up after a long weekend away, and ironically, I saw this post on Nancy White&#39;s shared delicious feed before I actually got to your posts (because &#39;full circle&#39; comes before &#39;winextra&#39;).  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Your point is well-taken.  I use Technorati tags for two reasons: first, in the hopes that my posts will become part of a larger conversation; and second, because as the semantic web evolves and becomes the norm, I&#39;m hoping those tags will port into a larger universe of tagged posts. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Something I recently discovered is that you can&#39;t search back using Technorati past one month, so if you&#39;re looking for an older post, try delicious, reddit, or Google, because you won&#39;t find it on Technorati -- I find that beyond frustrating.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Tagging aside, it seems that it&#39;s very difficult to be heard in the larger conversation anyway, because the loudest voices often don&#39;t wish to pay attention to the smaller ones.  I cannot tell you how many times I&#39;ve blogged something only to see it put out as some new idea two or three weeks later by one of those high-visibility guys.  It&#39;s not that I care, but the least they could do is give some credit where credit is due.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m just catching up after a long weekend away, and ironically, I saw this post on Nancy White&#39;s shared delicious feed before I actually got to your posts (because &#39;full circle&#39; comes before &#39;winextra&#39;).  </p>
<p>Your point is well-taken.  I use Technorati tags for two reasons: first, in the hopes that my posts will become part of a larger conversation; and second, because as the semantic web evolves and becomes the norm, I&#39;m hoping those tags will port into a larger universe of tagged posts. </p>
<p>Something I recently discovered is that you can&#39;t search back using Technorati past one month, so if you&#39;re looking for an older post, try delicious, reddit, or Google, because you won&#39;t find it on Technorati &#8212; I find that beyond frustrating.</p>
<p>Tagging aside, it seems that it&#39;s very difficult to be heard in the larger conversation anyway, because the loudest voices often don&#39;t wish to pay attention to the smaller ones.  I cannot tell you how many times I&#39;ve blogged something only to see it put out as some new idea two or three weeks later by one of those high-visibility guys.  It&#39;s not that I care, but the least they could do is give some credit where credit is due.</p>
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		<title>By: engtech</title>
		<link>http://www.winextra.com/2008/01/21/is-it-really-about-the-conversation/#comment-72759</link>
		<dc:creator>engtech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 18:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try using &lt;a href="http://www.googlealert.com"&gt;http://www.googlealert.com&lt;/a&gt; as the source instead of Technorati. It&#39;ll work better because it&#39;s looking for the words anywhere on the page -- not some specific kind of tagging format.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I wish the "real" Google Alerts supported RSS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try using <a href="http://www.googlealert.com" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.googlealert.com?referer=');">http://www.googlealert.com</a> as the source instead of Technorati. It&#39;ll work better because it&#39;s looking for the words anywhere on the page &#8212; not some specific kind of tagging format.</p>
<p>I wish the &#8220;real&#8221; Google Alerts supported RSS.</p>
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		<title>By: StevenHodson</title>
		<link>http://www.winextra.com/2008/01/21/is-it-really-about-the-conversation/#comment-72319</link>
		<dc:creator>StevenHodson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 16:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then may I ask how you search for other folks who are outside of your normal circle of influence that might be having a discussion you are interested in?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It seems to me that with each progressive move you have made you are narrowing the number of people you could potentially reach. With tags - point outward not inward as you dependence of categories does - you can reach a wider circle. Then you reduced that to a shared feed which once more is dependent on people knowing what to do with it and wanting to add it to their reader.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now you have reduced that circle even further by restricting yourself to strictly using Twitter for sharing linkage. How is the narrowing your field of available people doing anything to expand a conversation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then may I ask how you search for other folks who are outside of your normal circle of influence that might be having a discussion you are interested in?</p>
<p>It seems to me that with each progressive move you have made you are narrowing the number of people you could potentially reach. With tags - point outward not inward as you dependence of categories does - you can reach a wider circle. Then you reduced that to a shared feed which once more is dependent on people knowing what to do with it and wanting to add it to their reader.</p>
<p>Now you have reduced that circle even further by restricting yourself to strictly using Twitter for sharing linkage. How is the narrowing your field of available people doing anything to expand a conversation?</p>
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		<title>By: StevenHodson</title>
		<link>http://www.winextra.com/2008/01/21/is-it-really-about-the-conversation/#comment-72318</link>
		<dc:creator>StevenHodson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 16:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where did I say anything about an &lt;i&gt;official&lt;/i&gt; list of tags. If anything Technorati is dependent upon the person writing the post to supply the tags for the post. Without those tags and the ability to search something like Technorati using them then Technorati become just another search engine in an already overcrowded field.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where did I say anything about an <i>official</i> list of tags. If anything Technorati is dependent upon the person writing the post to supply the tags for the post. Without those tags and the ability to search something like Technorati using them then Technorati become just another search engine in an already overcrowded field.</p>
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		<title>By: Tagging And Metadata and Why Bother : [chrisbrogan.com]</title>
		<link>http://www.winextra.com/2008/01/21/is-it-really-about-the-conversation/#comment-48591</link>
		<dc:creator>Tagging And Metadata and Why Bother : [chrisbrogan.com]</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 03:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hodson wrote a post that got me thinking. He was asking whether bloggers used tagging in their posts to extend the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: StevenHodson</title>
		<link>http://www.winextra.com/2008/01/21/is-it-really-about-the-conversation/#comment-72320</link>
		<dc:creator>StevenHodson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 23:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just double checked .. yup that would be the case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just double checked .. yup that would be the case.</p>
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